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garethporlest18 · Jul 03, 2007, 11:24 PM // 23:24

For about 3 weeks maybe. Maybe even a month or 2.

Swift Thief · Jul 04, 2007, 01:02 AM // 01:02

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Originally Posted by TabascoSauce

Based on recent choices by ANet, I do not have high hopes for EotN.

Thanks!
TabascoSauce

What do you mean? That recent changes my ArenaNet are great! Hard mode, ATS, the skill rebalances, the new PvE skills, and others. The only bad thing is loot scaling and the grind needed to get better Luxon/Kurzick skills. Also, I am confused why people keep on saying how "ANet did a bad job making Guild Wars" and "They have made too many mistakes". Everyone makes mistakes. If you think ArenaNet is bad, just look at Bush then...

Mordakai · Jul 04, 2007, 03:04 AM // 03:04

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Originally Posted by TabascoSauce

But remember, if you don't then PuGs across the multiverse will condescendingly laugh mercilessly at you!

Well, to be honest, do you really need PUGs?

Even for hard mode?

Not saying 100+ armor wouldn't help, or that was a great idea by Anet or anything.

But it seems like throwing the baby out with the bathwater if that's the only reason you're quitting GW.

But you're right, if skills like the Luxon/Kurzick crap become the Norm in GW2...

TabascoSauce · Jul 04, 2007, 03:21 AM // 03:21

Ouch bro. This is not about politics though - that is a separate discussion that I'd be happy to have with you in a different thread.

I'd like for this one to not get derailed.

You seem to ask an honest question, so I'd be obliged to give you an honest answer, here goes. I think you and I just have different opinions on ANets choices, just a simple difference of what is good.

I cringe, every time they make the core gameplay longer, tougher, more grindy, etc. There are players who like that, prefer that, but it is not me.

I think that the SR nerf, and the Faction grind to millions for PvE skills, were both horrible choices. As in, kill my enjoyment. At first I was for the loot scaling change, then it hit me that the price of skills is not being changed and I hate to farm - so that is not doing me any good. In fact, nothing recently has been a positive change for my gameplay - at best neutral.

Basically, I think I am up against other players in this forum and in game who have years invested into this game, and the knowledge to play at a high skill (as in level 28s with half cast times are being mowed down), who in their self-interest are asking constantly for more tougher challenges, higher learning slopes, more lofty peaks to ascend. Well that is in their self-interest, but we will get back to that.

Basically, I am a beer and pretzels guy - if I wanted to work and sweat and solve problems I can get that for free at my RL job. Not to mention that I constantly discourage new players to GW - coming in now would be a total waste because of all the added new content and increasingly elitist attitudes that are getting worse. It would be a lot of things to do, and every time ANet makes the game longer, tougher, grindier then it makes the calculus in my head for a new player worse and worse.

See any "suck it up" comment from the peanut gallery for evidence of the crazy attitudes.

ANet has to make those crazy game-extending challenges have meaning, so they are tying them to the new PvE skills which are crazy powerful. Just like favor will never go away - what are HA players fighting so hard for then? Nothing? There has to be winners and losers, a consequence, in their opinion. And as far as I can see, making a zero-sum game encourages players to have zero-sum answers to questions. If you have a hammer, problems start to look like nails.

Take the /roll for AB thread that is going on now. The PvE community has shown ingenuity when presented with a win/lose situation, as in the wintersday events. What did they do? Rig the game so everybody won. Even districts went to Dwayna, odd to Grenth. A beautiful solution to a rigged winner/loser dynamic that ANet could not prevent, allowing everyone to win. That same methodology is evidently being applied to the AB, where players will announce that they will roll, on evens one side quits, and odds the other. They are doing that because - why struggle when everyone can win with a simple gentlemans agreement? It is nothing but a grind to max out at 10 million points, and is causing hurt to genuine AB players who just want to play, so lets get it done as fast as possible so we can all go back to playing and being happy.

ANet sets up these "competitive", inefficient situations and expects us to be happy? Oh heck no. We'll figure it out, as we have before and rig the game for us, because they haven't come up with a "win big/win smaller" paradigm that encourages players to play. If one side loses and get nothing, then why stay?

Back to game lengthening, I do not need this game extended, because I have not completed everything to begin with.

That whole job and wife thing comes first - as it should. This is just a game.

But those people who want the game harder and bigger are forgetting what it was like when they started out - oooooh we're bigger and badder and we can take lv 28s with half cast times now - and ANet has had to back off recently with hard mode, giving those players who want the challenge an area to play in and letting the casual players play casually? Now that's thinking.

That was a good move.

But there are players who are really simply posting here to keep their king-of-the-hill status, and anything to make the game easier has them coming out in droves crying about fairness - why shouldn't everyone have to put in 4,672 hours to get 10 million faction? They did it! So, why cant everyone?

So if I am in several threads arguing against the hardcore players, it is not because I dislike ANet or GW, in fact I have more than gotten my moneys worth from it if I quit now, forever. I'd just rather a different voice be heard too, and if the hardcore people do not like it, then tough - this is a venue for posting opinions.

Thanks!
TabascoSauce

Roshi_ikkyu · Jul 04, 2007, 04:01 AM // 04:01

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

...I have already switched to WoW, and am much happier.

Ooops I also posted this quote in the wrong thread.